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OK, I think I may have cottoned onto the reason why she is so giddy Embarassed because I am thrilled that she has done what I have asked of her, I am a bit over enthusiastic at verbally rewarding her Rolling Eyes

Need to chill a bit Wink

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Only just seen your post about moving to Training section so just about to do that now Lucy.

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_LUCY_ wrote:
OK, I think I may have cottoned onto the reason why she is so giddy Embarassed because I am thrilled that she has done what I have asked of her, I am a bit over enthusiastic at verbally rewarding her


Aah but isn't that lovely.

You have a dog who you have taught to love learning!

That's invaluable, don't go all quiet on her now or you may confuse her!
She's also young and will calm down with time.
I know what you mean sometimes you want to keep a lid on it
as she's turned into a whirling dirvish and can't concentrate on anything. Rolling Eyes

BUT

her enthusiasm is absolutely priceless - and the proof of a positively reinforced dog who loves to work for you Very Happy

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_LUCY_ wrote:
I do this Mands:

3 pip in quick succession for COME
1 pip for SIT
1 longer blast for STOP

Well that's the theory! Laughing



Yep thats what we use, but we kinda use the stop/sit together, so when we peep the whistle one time, but a little longer, Sadie will stop and sit.... if I forget to take the whistle out with me, I'll use the raised hand signal to get her to stop and sit and come is like flapping your arm out to the side and hitting your leg, thats what we use anyway...
Awww bless her, dont they love to learn!

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Lots of good advice on here and glad you are making progress now Smile

Just thought I'd add how we got on. Fennel sort of learnt this by mistake- although I was aiming for it but we stumbled onto it before I expected it. I taught her the pip of the whistle meant sit, and that a hand signal meant sit. On walks I also asked her to 'wait' or 'stay' when she was pottering around ahead of me and one day I discovered that saying a particular one of those (can't remember which one) made her sit down- possibly 'stay' as she had learnt to do that in the sit position- with me giving the hand signal too. So when I could get her to sit from a distance to sit or stay commands then I introduced a whistle command afterwards. Now when I blow the whistle she turns round to look at me- if my hand is up then she sits and if not she recalls. I use different pips but I think my body language is also quite important whilst she is learning and still not 100% sure of herself.
Sorry I'm not sure I explained that very well.

Regarding how to teach her 'wait' without having to repeat yourself then I do believe in only saying it once. It is difficult in a walk situation when she is so keen to keep moving so it might be better to introduce it into a home situation. I taught it to Fennel when she was a little puppy- she used to barge through doors under your feet and kept getting shut into rooms as we didn't notice sometimes. So I taught her to wait before going out of the front door.
First i used treats to rewards and stood by the front door, opened it enough to get out. If she rushed through then I would say 'no' and call her back to me. Then I would say ;wait' perhaps putting her in a sit, and rewarding after a very short pause. If she went before the reward I would reposition her and repeat the command.
This time she is made to wait can be extended and also you walking through the door and them remaining in place waiting. If I say 'wait' to my dog I expect them to wait until told otherwise, so I have a release command. At first this was the clicker but now I will say 'go on' or something similar. Doing it through a doorway is quite a good way of teaching what it means I think and then you could introduce it to gateways/stiles on your walks. Perhaps you do that anyway- but I think a good time to practice your 'stop' from a distance is when they are expecting to have to wait anyway. Not when they are tearing around at full speed Rolling Eyes Perhaps you have unintentionally taught Phoebe that wait means 2 secs of being still. If she is slightly unsure of what you expect then perhaps using a release command will mean she is more willing to wait because she knows it is only until you say 'go on' or whatever. I am presuming you don't do that already of course.

Hope that makes sense- sorry it's a bit of a ramble!

Vicky

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