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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject:  how to train... not going upstairs & be quiet? Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

I'm not sure on the best way to train both the above...

STAIRS - we have a stair gate so it's not an issue at the moment but the first thing he does when we go to someone elses house is disappear upstairs! Mad

other than follow him all the time or keep him on the lead, which i don't want to do, how do i get him to understand upstairs is a no-go area, no matter where we are.

BE QUIET - We live in a large house with a communal entrance but seperate halves of the house - me and OH live one side, OH's mother and sister live in other half. Everytime the door goes or someone knocks Coal rushes to the door barking excessively (thought labs were supposed to be quiet!) The rottie that lives next door is very protective and vocal so she tends to wind him up and sometimes she is barking at nothing!!! Shocked Shocked

we're tried to acknowledge him and sometimes he seems to stop but others he just keeps going. we'd like to try and stop him doing this - i don't mind the barking to tell us someone there but when we tell him enough, it'd be nice to have him stop Smile

Sorry for long post but thought i'd explain stuff....

thanks in advance for any tips! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Hi sam,

Stairs. This is not an easy thing you are expecting of your dog here. With the only stairs in his life made sensibly unclimbable, when stairs are offered open ready and waiting they are both tempting, interesting and fun. Some dogs hate staris and some think they are great fun! Coal probably hasn't an opinion on them right now as he only gets to meet them infrequently in the scheme of things.

There IS no one way you can make Coal know he mustn't climb stairs without some work at home. To be honest, I;d just keep doors shut and if he does climb them, so what really? Call him down, and shut the door. We try and train the impossible sometimes.

now the only way you could train this is to start at home. take your babygate down or open it and then TRAIN him. Set him up (and this will take many many many repetitions so be prepared) open the gate then wander past the stairs. If he goes towards them, stop him and tell him 'no' (IF he knows what NO means - seriously, most dogs don't we use it so randomly, we just think they do because it suits us to do so). You see where this is going. You need to actually train him at HOME that stairs are not to be climbed being utterly consistant - even THEN with the stairs and layout of houses being different elsewhere the temptation may STILL be too great.

Keep him on a lead, keep him in the room you are in or shut him in a friends kitchen if you take him round others houses. I probably wouldn't bother taking any of my dogs along with me if I knew people would get upset about them going for a look round. I'd leave them at home as it starts to become a hassle having them there.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

thanks for above di. will try and do some training at home and guess i'll just have to tolerate him racing up other peoples. its obviously great fun for him!

any advice on the Be Quiet training??? Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Max doesn't go upstairs and we don't block them off.

He did used to follow me up when I went to the loo, but now he sits at the bottom as he has finally realised that what goes up, must come down - eventually. Maybe your baby goes up stairs when he can because he can as you use a stair gate.

As for the barking at the door, afraid I can't help you. Max tends to rush the door as he feels he is the official meeter and greeter and also as they might be carrying a biscuit for him but doesn't bark so he is easy to tell to sit and wait.

No suggestions I am afraid - really I haven't been helpful at all. Sorry


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

oohhhh Di come back I need Be Quiet training advice too Confused

I jus started a new job working from home full time and Ruby woofing in the background isnt umm very condusive. Sam here is what I am planning to do in the meantime sure Di or someone will correct me if its tosh hehe

When Ruby is barking say speak, bark, sing, woofwhatever
Then when she stops say -quiet shh stop - whatever you want click and treat.

Then I think the idea is that they start to associate the word and the action repeat repeat repeat. I assume if you dont use a clicker you can do the same thing but just without the click.

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I wrote a huge long post on 'be quiet' and then my husband, in his wisdom, whilst I was on the telephone, switched 'screennames' on aol and so it just vanished. Anyone who has ever written a long post only to lose it will know how annoyed I am!!! I have to get the dinner finished (amind phone calls... grin) but will pick at the bones of what i wrote later. Its not groundbreaking stuff, just hopefully helpful....

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i know the feeling!!!! i write something long, meanwhile have lost internet connection so when i click submit it all disappears and never comes back!

grrrr

and shall await your advice - sure itll be very helpful..... oh and by the way the advice you gave on his biting snapping is working really well!!!


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Bump - Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

neeed help with the be quiet thing or is it just basically what Vicky has described above?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject:  Re: how to train... not going upstairs & be quiet? Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

just to make you feel better, Indy barks in the middle of the night and to make things worse....we're living with the in-laws while we extend the house.....i'm sick of getting up in the middle of the night to tell her to bloody shut up.....she really doesn't like the new neighbours across the road and she barks at them aswell, Holly & Indy
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