Diana
A right Breeder


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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Confused
" When you have the test done do you still need to do an annual test of the eyes "
...Indeed you do... for the good reason that the annual eye certificate looks for MORE than just GPRA, it also looks, in our breed for Hereditary cataracts and MRD, two other conditions relatively common to our breed. Not as nasty in what they develop into as GPRA, but nasty and with some element of heridtary inheritence. So you Optigen test once, but yes you do need to still do you basic eye certificate. Of course when you go and have your eye certificate done annually, you will KNOW, having Optigen tested, if you dog has come back genetically clear by Optigen that you will never fail on *that* at your eye certificate. Its some comfort when sitting there in the dark
" My girl will be being mated (when she decides to come into season) this month she as been eye tested at the vets "
.... Can I just check, having just run into an exact case of this - you mean by a specilialist eye panelist under the BVA/KC scheme, not just a eye check at your normal vets? Just to make sure. Just had a lady who did just that and even her VET thought it was all she needed to do, have a once over with her normal guy....????
" Will I need to test the puppy/puppies I keep back or will they be OK by parentage or is that only when both parents have been Optigen tested Normal/Clear? "
Exactly. You cannot know the eye status of your girl for GPRA without Optigen testing her. So using a Clear Optigen Sire ensures you know whatever the eye status of your girl you will NOT produce ANY pups with GPRA, BUT you can't know, if your girl was a Carrier. If she is, then half the litter will be too. If she is Affected (and remember you can pass your eye certificates for a number of years THEN the dog go and fail having had two or three litters so clearing an eye certificate doesn't mean she won't come back Affected in the future or if you Optigen tested her) then all the pups when mated to a CLEAR dog will be Carriers.
So if every pup you produced to your Clear dog are definately only going to pet homes never to be bred, then no, you can know that the only important thing is you are not going to produce GPRA, BUT if any might be bred from, yes you need to litter test or test THOSE pups to check if they are Carriers.
Best thing really is to test your girl. It only takes a couple of weeks for the results to come back, you could have the result by the time you mate her and save yourself having to check any puppies.
Di
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Schiplab
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Joined: Feb 25, 2007 Posts: 204
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for your replies soooooooo glad I asked the Q's I did have it wrong
Yes she is eye tested by a BVA/KC scheme I saw the post you mention and no she is tested correctly 
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EvelynH
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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We have set the first discount period for January 28 - February 8, 2008 & we
will be posting information on it real soon. It will be much like the
satellite clinics that we currently have, but it won't be tied to any event.
Sincerely,
Becky Iddings
Administrative Support Associate
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We will still use a code, but it will be posted right on the website with
the details for participation (i.e. when code is available & when samples
should arrive.)
Sincerely,
Becky Iddings
Administrative Support Associate
http://www.optigen.com/opt11_calendar.taf
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catandmatt
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Joined: Dec 02, 2007 Posts: 397
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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hi was wondering on this one, our pups dad naiken suede is apparently clear by parentage on both sides brigburn sedge and naiken perpeshua(correct spelling i think)
not sure about mum buckholt orchid so was wondering am i right to think that our pup is clear by parentage? or carrier or something else? and if she was ever mated to a clear by parentage dog could the genes still come together and produce affected or carrier or not.
sorry just a bit confused
thanks cat
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Helen-S
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| catandmatt wrote: | | not sure about mum buckholt orchid so was wondering am i right to think that our pup is clear by parentage? |
No, she is not as you do not know the status of her dam's eyes.
If the dam's Optigen result would be clear your pup is cbp.
| catandmatt wrote: | | and if she was ever mated to a clear by parentage dog could the genes still come together and produce affected or carrier or not. |
If your pup is clear by parentage or Optigen tested clear herself she'll never produce affected or carrier progeny.
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catandmatt
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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so does that mean that because we know naiken suede to be clear on both sides mum and dad she couldn't be affected only carrier? sorry if i'm being thick or would that depend on whether orchid was affected or not? thanks cat
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