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jamse  Offline
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject:  Anyone related to Murphy?(The Mountaineer) Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Has my Murphy got any relations here?
Sires side

Ballagan Sabre
Ballagan Linnet
Broadlaw Ewan
Ft Ch Baildonian Baron Of Craighorn
Ft Ch Kenue Cedar
Ft Ch Shortthorn Tommy Of Leadburn
Ballagan Frisa
Gillmhor Arrow Of Pocklea
Baildonian Tina
Ft Ch Ir Ft Ch Theowier Turramurra Teal (IKC)
Ft Ch Croftweit Solo
Ft Ch Dargdaffin Dynamo
Bringwood Becky
Ft Ch Symington Clarerone Of Leadburn
Ballagan Tumbarumba
Seanbaile Regent (IKC)
Kilmore Della (IKC)
Ft Ch Poklea Remus
Barnavara Water Beetle
Ballyellery Adder
Ir Ft Ch Towerline Swift
Croftweit Ricochet
Welston Tanya
Ft Ch Tasco Broom-Tip Of Carnochway
Dargdaffin Candy
Waxham Emperor
Waxham Cara
Ft Ch Tibea Tosh
Palgrave Slippery Sue

Dams side

Glenship Elly
Ft Ch Birdbrook Arrow Of Craigfelin
Pechasi Juno Of Glenship
Ft Ch Tibea Tosh
Ft Ch Purdey Of Bonhote Of Birdbrook
Ft Ch Scolopax Quail Of Gunstock
Pechasi Fern
Ft Ch Palgrave Quin
Ft Ch Tibea Topaz
Dusty of Bulbeck
Glebemoore Sara
Ft Ch Swingbrook Twig
Scolopax Midnight Lady
Ft Ch Carnochway Daniel
Holly At Pechasi
Ft Ch Shot Of Palgrave
Ft Ch Palgrave Holly
Ft Ch Hedenhampark Dash Of Philray
Ft Ch Oday Alice Of Tibea
Ft Ch Kenswick Hamish
Palgrave Hetty
Ft Ch Swinbrook Tan
Kenaley Tinker
Ft Ch Drakeshead Actor Of Shotgate
Ft Ch Palgrave Kay
Scolopax Edward
Gunstock Winsome Of Scolopax
Ft Ch Leacross Rinkals
Killyleagh Wanda
Ft Ch Pocklington Glen
Lucky Gem Of Grangewater

On Typing this out I noticed Tibea Tosh appears on both sides This cant be the sme dog can it?

Look forward to hearing who Murphys Relatives are

Thanks

James

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Hi James,

Yes it will be the same dog Very Happy

Lots of champions in there! Not related to my 2 as they are from show lines Smile


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Yep, most of those. Baildonian Baron is my Anna's sire and Amy also has plenty of your dog's bitch line in her.

Oh yes, there was only one Tibea Tosh! and a smashing dog he was too! You have some wonderful working dogs there. Several IGL Retriever Championship winners and several more who were placed in the championship. I hope you are not letting all that brain go to waste!

Regards, John

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Hi we have on Sire's side

GGG Ft Ch Tibea Tosh
GGGFt Ch Purdey Of Bonhote Of Birdbrook
GGGG Ft Ch Palgrave Quin
GGGG Dusty of Bulbeck
GGGG Glebemoore Sara
GGGG Ft Ch Shot Of Palgrave
GGGG Ft Ch Drakeshead Actor Of Shotgate

Welcome to the family Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Charlie has Dargdaffin Dynamo, Dargdaffin Candy and Tasco Broom-Tip of Carnochway on his sire's side.

You should also find quite a few relatives via Pocklea Remus (he is in Charlie's pedigree, but further back than 5 generations). He was a real casanova of a stud dog, it seems. Very Happy

Helen.


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Ft Ch Baildonian Baron Of Craighorn is Ella's Great Grandaddy or GG(cant remember and at work). he was a busy dog in his day!
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We have a few of the palgraves and swinbrook Wink
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As far as I know, Baron is still alive and living in America at Mike Stewart's Wildrose kennel near Oxford, Mississippi. In his hay day he was one of the very top working dogs in the UK.

http://www.uklabs.com/sires/baron_profile.pdf

Regards, John

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Both Kelly and Gemma are related to your dog.

Both of them through swinbrook Twig and Tibea Tosh (looks like he's had a busy life !!) and individually a few others!

Gemma has Swinbrook Twig on both sides of her pedigree!

Angela

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(looks like he's had a busy life !!)


Heres a thought for you. Whilst it is right to use good dogs at stud in order to pass on their genes, at what point does "Use" become "Overuse"? Suppose for example a dog, unknown to it's owner was a carrier for a hereditary problem. It would, in the case of some dogs be a time bomb waiting to explode. Take Baron for example, (Not that I'm insinuating that there was anything wrong with him, far from it!) he was well used in the UK and has many progeny in Europe. He was then sold to America and continued his stud life over there. In the old days things were rather more insular. If you managed to ruin a breed in one country there was a very good chance of resurrecting it be buying in stock from another. This is getting increasingly difficult.

We need to be very careful about using “Flavour of the month” stud dogs.

Just a thought for you, John

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