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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry Di - another question about this....
Should I keep Daisy on either a short lead (when I'm walking her along the road) and the long line in the fields for ALL walks for the next few weeks - so she has no free running at all?
We tried it today using a long line - there were no other dogs or people around though and we did linger for as long as possible hoping one would come along. She hardly went more than a couple of meters from me, just sniffed around, trotted along (got tangled up a couple of times) and recalled perfectly every time I called 'come'...so i know she can do it...it's just learning to apply it when excited and distracted I guess!
Thanks!
p.s the only chap I'm likely to bag around these villages is an elderly farmer type- nevertheless still don't think the OH would be too impressed!!
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Di that's such great advice, I'm going to give the long line a try to. Have just got back from 2 weeks away and OH's father was looking after George. I know he got spoilt rotten and that seems to have caused his brain to completely forget all his training which I have spent the last 6 months doing!!!!
Today were out in the woods and George decides to disappear into the trees, normally he will come back when I call but no not this time, he has found a deer that he really wants t say hello to - I get him back to me when he takes off again and this time straight into and over (how I don't know) a barbed wire fence which I had to practically take apart to get him back - needless to say he spent the rest of the walk on the lead BUT that was awful too as he has in the 2 weeks I've been away decided to pull and pull and take no notice of me at all. I ended up using his lead as a balance leash which at least made him walk to heel without the pull on his collar but I was so disappointed when I got back home I felt like crying. My gorgeous boy who was pretty obedient in the sense that he wouldmost of the time listen to me - has turned into a teenage nightmare. I foresee many many extra training sessions and walks on lead until he realised he isn't in charge... 
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: UPDATED - 11 month old ignoring off lead recall |
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It all sounded so straight forward!
We got a 10m long line and started using it but because we live in a rural area, we'd find that we'd often walk Daisy without seeing any other dogs, She behaves on the long line impecibly recalling immediately 100% of the time whist we'd get in a terrible knotted up mess ! She also isn't getting any free running as she tends to stay close by when she's on the lead.
I don't know where to go next with this really. We may meet other dogs one walk in 4 or 5, and OH is getting frustrated by keeping her on a long lead all the time - as I am as I keep getting in knots! (I can't wrap it round me as I'm pregnant so not a great idea to get strangled acorss the torso by a lead!). I appreciate if you walk in a busy park that this is probably great as you can stand in the middle and train as other dogs go by - but we just aren't in these sort of situations. We have loads of lovely fields, tow paths, woods etc on our doorstep so I don't want to start driving to a town park everyday in order to do this as it's not her usual environment..and as classes have already proved, she can do it in the 'classroom' situation once she concentrates.
OH has suggested that if we can get her to stay off lead and sit down when we see another dog and then her reward is to be alowed to be released and play, then maybe this will introduce an element of control over the exuberance. She can do this in most situations - staying at a distance etc, but again, put another dog or person in the picture and whoosh, she's off.
I'm really thankful for your advice Diana but is there a way we can tailor this to suit our situation do you think as I don't feel we're making any progress with it at the moment...... 
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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I think your sit and stay idea might be worth trying. I used make Toby sit and stay when there was a dog coming and he was playing in the field. I've done it so often with him that when he gets really excited and starts to run to the other dog he stops looks at me and plops his bottom down and doesn't move.
Thanks for the brilliant post btw Di. Long lines are fabulous! Toby's trainer suggested we get one to teach recall when he first went to puppy class. We have progressed from line to off lead in different situations a little at a time but as they say...2 steps forward, 5 steps back! About three days ago his recall just went out the window for no reason. This time the killer problem was not people or dogs but the dreaded smells! So the good old line is back out. One of my problems is that Toby is a clever cookie and knows damn well when that line comes off so he'll behave like an angel whilst he's on it with it always loose and perfect recall but if I give him a little more freedom by letting him off he turns into a looney and ignores me. Meh! I can't complain though the poor little mite is only just seven months old.
Good luck to all of us!!! lol!
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