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Basil Subscriber 08/10/2012 Offline
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject:  Anyone have any knowledge of Basil's ancestors? Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Hi anyone have a pup from the same litter or know anything about any of the dogs in his lineage?

sire: CH saranden saboteur jw
dam: manorwell blossom

grandparents:
(sire side)
rocheby old smoke (top stud 2005)
saranden salisha
(dam side)
mighty black phantom
sparbrook derby day of manorwell

gt grandparents:
(sire side)
rocheby navy blue
SH CH rocheby polka dot
CH cornlands wellington jw

sweet marjaram od carnochway saranden
(dam side)
FTCH tasco broomtip of carnochway
brown maxi
paulgun corylus
betty bramble

gt gt grandparents:
(sire side)
rocheby sailing by
cambremer royal velvet at rocheby
poolstead pretentious at rocheby
SHCH rocheby acorn
INTERNATIONAL CH carpenny warpole

cornland lady mimosa
rocheby royal blue of cornlands
kentee magic wispa
(dam side)
INTERNATIONAL FTCH heatherbank of tasco
tasco yellow sally
lindall marcus at donalbain
gallowhill girl
larchbank smart alec
drakeshead ursy of paulgun
keness huntsman
FTW ernevale joddy

gt gt gt grandparents:
(sire side)
CH kupros master mariner
rocheby shady lady
SHCH rocheby royal oak
SHCH cambremer all that jazz
SHCH poolstead preferential

poolstead precious pearl
playmate of bensondale
rocheby polished oak
hawksmoors webster
SHCH covetwood eloise of car penny
raybooth cream cracker
cornlands lady gemini
SHCH rocheby royal oak
lindall charmed at rocheby
bonzer saracen
gownies caramel
(dam side)
FTCH haretor mark of drakeshead
malwell kestrel
FTCH shinshail apache
swinbrook stonefly
charway mattie brown
lindall miss emma
battel boy bruno
dancobama kiera
SHCH tibblestone the chorister
poppycock at larchbank
FTCH haretor shadow of drakeshead
drakeshead ursula
open stake FTW downfarm dice
slingsby gertrude
FTCH haretor mark of drakeshead
FTW broadville fern



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Topseyt Subscriber 28/04/2013 Offline
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Well, Charlie is related via Haretor Mark of Drakeshead and Tasco Broomtip of Carnochway.

Some of the other names are familiar, so I think you will find other relatives on here too.

Someone else may be able to tell you more about them.

Helen.


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Sarah, I'm on the wrong 'pute so don't have my database handy but I know for certain Basil is related to both mine (Blue through Carpenny Walpole and Coco through KMM!) An interesting mix of show and working dogs there.

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Thanks Helen and Maddie,

It is a strange mix of field and show isn't it? I've edited to try and show but basically the show is all on the sire side and the field all on the dams.

Why might a breeder do this? Might she be trying to make the move over to showing? I think she was retaining a pup from the litter for that purpose?

What does that make basil as such? Confused I think if i understand from some posts by JohnW he is neither show nor field as he participates in neither and doesnt not have a strong defined line in either. Have I understood that right?

It's hard to say at 8 months but he looks like a little hybrid of working and show! He has the lean frame and long legs of field and very deep barrell chest of a show dog, like his father. Of course he could just be lanky while growing.
He is very lazy and calm around the house but seems to have a bit of a working attitude when exercising.

We took him to a dog hash on saturday (i didnt know what one was -basically a run/jog/walk depending on which you fancy but you work as a pack heading down dead trails until the front runners find the right trail and lead the pack, dogs and owners, on) we intended to do only part of it as he's too young for so much exercise but basically Basil led the pack like a dog possessed getting quite frustrated at me and OH for not keeping at the front with him! It made me think that could be his working lineage as i've never seen a lab run like he did. He seemed to instinctively understand what to do.

Sorry for huge long post but your thoughts and knowledge is really appreciated Smile


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I have found a half sister pup and a half nephew Very Happy

Anymore relatives on here?

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Cassie is related through Rocheby and poolstead.

Her grandfather is Old Smokey

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If they share a grandfather does that kind make them distant cousins?

Cousin Cassie has a nice ring to it Wink


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Hello

Think we are related!

Parents

(s) Rocheby Silver Suede
(d) Rocheby Snow Orchid

Grand Parents

(s) Anti Apsen of Finnwoods
(d) Bridgeford Crystal Clear for Rocheby

(s) Roheby old Smokey
(d) Bridgeford Brable Hedge over Rocheby

Great Grand-Parents
(s) Palabras Bleu Bayou
(d) Hirsipirtin Xedos

(s) Rocheby Whisky Mac
(d) Rave Review of Bridgeford

(s) Rocheby Navy Blue
(d) Rocheby Polka Dot

Great Great Grandparents

Tweedle Dum Steamy Windows
Upwards Amanda
Poolstead pretntious at Rocheby
Rocheby Acorn
Bothgates the show must go on
Jubliee Mystic of Brambleridge
Rocheby sailing by
Cambbreamer Royal Velvet at Rocheby

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Ozzie shares bloodlines on both sides. On your dog's sire's side, from Rocheby Old Smokey back, also some of the Carpenny names are familiar, in different positions on his pedigree though. And on your dogs dam's side, all the Drakeshead lines.

Ozzie's pedigree is here

Cheers

Ness

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Oooh, havent been on here for a while as i've been sooo busy at work, but it's good to see Basil has some more relatives on here!

I think Rocheby old Smokey must have been very busy Wink
Very Happy


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