Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: defiant in one thing only
Most of you know I have a very obedient dog. He is the only dog in class that trains off lead, he does everything I ask usually the first time, except for two things. One I know how to deal with, but the other one I have tried everything that i can think of. In training class during a break we have to get our dogs in a down and hoop their lead over a pole. Hoping to eventually teach them to stay there with all distractions without a lead. Stormy does not like to be tied up, so a few weeks ago it was taking me 3 or 4 attempts to get him in the down. If i gave him a treat, he would get up again. After the 4th attempt he would go down and stay there until after our break. However, we had 2 weeks off due to him being poorly. We went back yesterday and he would not go down. We have been told if they don't go down to stand on their lead until they are down. Yesterday I did this with stormy and he eventually went down, but I had to stand on his lead all throught the break or he would get up. Can anyone suggest how i can get him down without having to push down on the lead and without treats. This is the only thing I am finding hard to master. We had a different trainer yesterday and he said stormy was really stubborn and he had less luck than me in getting stormy down. Any suggestion please
I have a simialr problem with Mille and her sit stays. Maybe, like Millie, he doesn't understand what he is meant to do? I know with some commands it can take several attempts for them to understand. I was lucky with Doobs as he got it straight away and is now brill at it - but Millie, well she is another story! Keep at it and he will get it - I know he will!
no he knows what I mean. We have done dog training since he was 15 weeks and we also do downs at a distance in the park the first time every time, so he is being stubborn. If he does not want to do something then he get stubborn. Usually I do not budge until he has done what I ask, so he knows he won't win as I always see my commands through, but at training class he plays up because he hates being tied up. over the park when we do downs at a distance he is off lead and I have no probs there.
Oh dear! They can be sooo frustrating at times can't they? I don't know what to suggest really as when I attended classes we didn't have to tie them up. The only thing I would do is practise outside training classes to see if that would help - and giving him a jackpot treat when he does do it.
Good luck - training can be so trying sometimes, but you usually come through it at the other end!
Thanks Sonia. I agree. Don't you just hate when they won't do it in class though. We were doing emergency downs in class no probs, but as soon as the breaktime came, be knew what was coming and just would not do it.
hehehe - yes, I so know what you mean. Doobs was always brill at going through a gate for me when at training class - but take him to his fav place and get him through a gate, no chance! So I had to really persevere with him, even walkng back home or getting back in the car and he soon got the message. The trick is if you let them get away with it once, they will always try it on, so don't let them!
I know what you mean. When stormy was a pup I was adamant he would sit at every kerb and sometimes I would have to tell him 20 times at each kerb to sit. Because I persevered with it, he got the message and for the last 6 months he has sat the first time at every kerb. Sometimes he even sits now without the command
I've (amost) given up hope of Meg being anything other than paranoid at the vet. Weeing (unless she has 'been' immediately beforehand); trembling, dragging me to the door, even trying to jump on one poor chap's lap in the waiting room because he spoke kindly to her (and she's no lightweight!) We've tried weeks worth of desensitisation, going with a bagful of treats and just walking round the car park then going home, going to the door then going home, going in and sitting down then going home etc etc. But no - she's only ever been in for her spaying op, one cut paw and the rest annual booster jabs - and they're really kind people. Any suggestions, or should I resign myself to her alter ego as soon as we drive into the car park? (changing vets temporarily on hols didn't help by the way!)
How do you feel when you go to the vets? Knowing what Meg's reaction will be, do you tense up at all? I would go in bold as you like and just ignore any behaviour Meg shows. Dogs can feel the tension from owners, so if you feel stressed chances are she will too. Have you tried some Bachs Rescue Remedy? Give a few drops to Meg beforehand and some for you too! Then go with a 'jolly hockeysticks' approach and see if that helps.
Stormy use to love the vets until he was neutered. He was put off having to wear a clik collar and associated the vets with the collar. I changed vets and the new vet was not very sympathetic, but stormy let him look at him whilst dh held and fed the treats. The next time we went we saw the same vet, but stormy was calmer and the vet was better with him because of stormy being calmer and since then he loves going to the vets, but still gets really excited when going into the vets room. He will sit lovely in the waiting room, but as soon as we get in the room, he wants to lick the vet to death lol. So even though he has got better, I have not done anything different,so I cannot suggest anything. It may just be that he is an older dog, or down to his obedience training, but I don't know that for sure.
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