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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject:  Endacott & Holbatch pedigrees Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Hi -

Haven't posted for an ages, but hope I can be really cheeky and ask if anyone know/is related to my black lab Finn.

Finn's Kennel name is Holbatch Fred (born 12/5/05)

Sire - FT CH Endacott Shelf
Dam - Holbatch Squib

Grandparents -
FTCH Glenbriar Solo
Endacott Spindle
Holbatch Smith
Holbatch Isabella

Great-Grandparents -
FT CH Pocklea Remus
IR FT CH Glenbriar Quest
Ewshot Liffey
Endacott's Queen
Bircham's Swift of Highseas
Holbatch Crest
Castletbrae Turbo of Shadowbrae
Holbatch Osier

Others -
Ft CH Haretor Mark of Drakeshead
IR FT CH Drakeshead Gypsy
Knighthawk of Glenbriar
IR FT CH Glenbriar Skippy
Palgrave Triton
Ashe Warren Cassie
FT CH Swinbrook Twig
Chippinghurst Ptarmagin
Sage of Swinbrook
Kiri of Birchams
Brown of Holbatch
Tanrhiw Fern of Holbatch
FT CH Shadowbrae Drake
Gleneagles Chandon
Isaac of Broadwas
Holbatch Fleet

There are more names - Drakeshead Anna, Pocklington Ben etc.

Thanks to John W I found out a bit about Endacott Shelf - Andy Latham's dog. However, I wondered if anyone had any more info for me - I know Drakeshead crops up quite a bit on the working circuit. I assume this a mainly working line - Finn has certainly inherited the retrieving instinct!

Thanks

Jodie



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:44 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

It is a good solid working pedigree Jodie. I'll fill a few details in later when I have time later today. I do have a particular soft spot for the Endacott dogs, Ann Courtier lives only a few miles from me and was instrumental in finding me my Amy who was sired by one of her dogs.

Regards, John

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Thanks John! I look forward to finding out more!

Jodie

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject:  related Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Hi my girl is related to you labrador by 3 or 4 names i think Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Sorry it’s taken so long Jodie! Been rushed off my feet here.

Drakeshead is the affix of John and Sandra Halstead and to say that these two are the greatest field trials people in the world I don’t think would meet with many objections! Sandra Halstead, before her marriage to John was more involved with the show scene and is a champ show judge. After meeting John Halstead, who was already into the working side, she started to get interested in Field Trials and proved she was no slouch either. Ann Courtier once told me that John Halstead was so good that he was quite capable of winning a Field Trial with a Jack Russell Terrier! Whatever, their record in the IGL Retriever Championship is unsurpassed! In actual fact, the very first Drakeshead dog to win was not worked by them, it was Drakeshead Wisp who in 1978 won for Mr R S Hill. In 1979 it was the turn of Sandra to beat her husband and put the Halstead name on the cup for the first time by winning with Westead Shot of Drakeshead. It was 1985 before John Halstead got his name on the cup for first time with the first of a record three times in a row with the same dog, Breeze of Drakeshead winning in 85/86/87. To prove it was no flook he again won the championship in 1992 with Raughlin Pete of Drakeshead. And as if that was not enough he won again in 2003 with Drakeshead Deana! What a record! It hardly seems worth mentioning places, there have been many, but I will mention a couple or so. 2001, Drakeshead Treacle, Award of Honour, 1999, Drakeshead Garth, Diploma of merit, 1996, Drakeshead Abba, Diploma of merit, and so the list goes on and on.

So as you said in your post, “I know Drakeshead crops up quite a bit on the working circuit.” Yep, and where you see it you know, “This is a good dog!”

Regards, John

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Thank you John! You are an information gold mine as usual!

Finn has obviously inherited his good nose then - we don't work him, but I'm sure he would have been an excellent gundog if he had been trained. As it is, he is a much loved pet who enjoys plenty of 'informal' retreiving!

Jodie

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we don't work him, but I'm sure he would have been an excellent gundog


You want to take a toy or something with you when you go for a walk, drop it then send him back for it. Maybe sometimes drop it in long grass to hide it and make him use his brain to find it. He would love the game. It's all gundog work. And you never know, if you ever drop a glove or loose your keys he would be able to help find them for you.

Regards, John

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Thanks for the tip John - we do that with him and he is very quick to retrieve. If he is walking with me, he gets lots of retrieval practice in long grass/undergrowth etc as I am such a lame shot with a ball or dummy! He partticularly likes retrieving from the water. He is really good at following a scent - leaving his ball in a 'safe' place - before doubling back to get the ball at the end.

The only thing that would detract from him being a good gundog is the fact that he is pretty timid - he is certainly not a bold dog, unlike some of his littermates. As it is, he suits us just fine!

Jodie

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Hi to a cousin of both of mine through Drakeshead and Pocklea, Swinbrooke and Glenbriar lines.
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Hi Yup Clyde has found a cousin through Pocklea,Swinbrook and Haretor mark of Drakeshead
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