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Old 06-12-2007, 04:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Our 15 month old chocolate labrador Lara has had a very dry, flaky and cracked nose for some time now. Where her nose should be shiny and moist it is instead dull, dry and cracked. It is quite sensitive to touch but it doesn't seem to cause her any pain otherwise.

We spoke to our vet and the breeder some months ago when it first started. The vet didn't know what it was. The breeder asked some of the old-timers at Crufts about it and emailed us an article describing skin conditions in ladradors (i.e. how sensitive their skin is and how they can develop almost mysterious allergies). This article recommended using Econeem cream.

We have been using this now for almost two months but with no real effects. We apply the cream (and some hemp based moisterising cream) to Lara's nose every day. Some of the dry flakes do drop off but underneath the skin is not moist and shiny. The condition almost seems to be regenerating each day - it is quite strange.

Otherwise Lara is in spectacular condition. The breeder, vet and anyone we meet regularly comment on how beautiful she is. But we would really like to sort her nose out.

Has anyone ever come across this problem before? Or has anyone encountered "allergies" in labradors and if so how have you sorted them out?

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Old 06-12-2007, 05:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi D
Ben our Lab came to us at 14 months with the most horrid skin, I tried various brands of dry dog food, have even just tried again but as soon as he goes on dry food he just breaks out in hot spots & scaly patches,
I have found that if I feed him home cooked then the problems with his skin stop.
So it could be food related,

I have found that almond oil soothes the scaly dry patches, i just massage it into the areas that are dry, if the patches break & become wet then i uses flowers of sulpher, which is available from boots & other large chemists,

I hope this helps & if you'd like more info on home cooking then feel free to ask,
you could also try BARF but im not the one to ask about that but there is lots of info around LF on this subject

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Old 06-12-2007, 05:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I know one of my sisters dogs had a very scaly nose for a while and when she changed from a plastic feeding bowl to a metal one, the dogs nose returned to normal.

I know Discoid Lupus causes scaly noses too (I researched a lot to try to help my sister), but I don't think it is commonly found in Labradors.
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Not a Lab but my little terrier Sam has always had problems with a dry, cracked and very chapped nose. It is actually a condition (can't remember what my vet called it) but basically she never has had a naturally wet nose and I have to put things like Chapstick and Blisteze on her nose to keep it moist. It does help but it is a regular thing, I have to apply it most days.
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There was a similar case here some weeks ago and I sent the following links - hope they were of help.

http://www.rr-oona.com/DLE/AI-DLE-eng.html
http://www.rr-oona.com/DLE/AI-SLE-eng.html

The number of cracked noses seem to be more and more of a problem with labradors - not only in the UK.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi all,

Many thanks to everyone for their helpful comments.

Lara has been on Royal Canin (baby, junior and now adult Labrador specific) since the beginning with us and we have tried her intermittently on chicken and rice so I don't think it can be her food. She eats from a ceramic bowl which again should preclude any allergic reaction. Also, she gets evening primrose oil every day in her food to keep her coat rich and moisterised - which again should help. We have tried to think what else could be irritating her but we are very careful about using any chemical cleaning products for instance.

Although her skin can sometimes be a little bit dry and show up dandruff - it is only her nose that is flaky and cracked. We'll continue trying to get to the cause of it and I'll post any solutions that I find in case it may help anyone else.


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Old 11-09-2008, 04:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi,

Did you ever get to the bottom of this? My pup is 14 months and had a dry, scaby nose for some time now and then vet doesn't have a clue. I have been reading about inherited nasal parakeratosis, does anyone know of a test for this?

As for treating with vaseline, its on for microseconds before she's licked it off! Anybody know any good tricks for keeping it on there?

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Hi Chris,

We've discussed this with so many people and there doesn't seem to be any perfect solution for our dog. The dry flakiness on her nose goes through cycles - it grows harder and "flakier" and looks quite painful, then it begins to fall off, and for a while her nose is almost back to "normal" until the cycle begins again. I think it is some type of auto-immune reaction. There was an article in one of the dog magazines discussing such conditions in Labradors. They have particularly sensitive and dry skin so are more prone to such things. It never seems to upset or bother our Lara so at this stage we are quite philosophical about it. The only thing we have not tried is some type of professional homeopathic advice. We do "treat" her nose regularly with manuka honey (a particularly strong antiseptic honey which is good for skin conditions) and some ordinary cooling skin-cream. Both of these do seem to keep any particularly bad attacks at bay but they do nothing to reverse the general cycle her nose goes through.

If you do find out anything further do let me know.

All the best,

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Old 13-09-2008, 12:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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my 10 month old chocolate lab has exactly the same problem :-(
As well as the constant flaking and dryness it seems to change colour with bright pink areas inside the nostrils at times.



We had planned on taking him to the vets but judging by this thread it could be a wasted journey if there's so little that can be done. Thankfully Charlie seems oblivious to it
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David,
That's sounds just like what our Hamba goes through. Looks just like your photo too, DaveSS. I guess all we can do is keep an eye on it. Hamba's due at the vets in a few weeks to be spayed so I'll have a chat with them then, I'll let you know what I find out.

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