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Old 06-04-2015, 12:01 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Hi, just looking for a bit of advice. I'm looking to get a lab puppy currently and have been in contact with one of the breeders on the Kennel Club assured breeder list who's bitch is due to have a litter shortly. I've just looked on champ dogs site for the details of the litter though, as below:

Sire:
Eye Examination : Unaffected - 28th July 2014
Elbow Score : 0 - 4th March 2014
Hip Score : 3/3 = 6 - 4th March 2014
SD2 (dwarfism) : Clear (n/n) - 5th December 2013
EIC : Normal (+/+) - 18th February 2013

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Eye Examination : Unaffected - 11th October 2014
EIC : clear - 6th October 2014
Hip Score : 9/23 = 32 - 12th June 2014
prcd-PRA : Hereditary Clear - 6th May 2007

Am I right to be concerned about the hip scored of the bitch? It seems quite high compared to others I've seen quoted for parents of litters. Would it be advisable to steer clear? Any advice appreciated! Thanks.
If she's hereditary clear of GPRA back in May 2007, this would make her 8 years old in May..........has she had previous litters? I'm wondering if there are any progeny health records for this bitch which might give some light onto her passing on a bad hip score? Do you have her KC registered name, we could look up additional info for you

Actually, just noticed her hip score was only done last year at age 7, this might have some bearing on the uneven/high score.......I'm now wondering why they have left it so late to breed a litter from her, she's far too old for a 1st litter IMO...........there are plenty of other litters from which you could be choosing a puppy from i'm sure
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If she's hereditary clear of GPRA back in May 2007, this would make her 8 years old in May..........has she had previous litters? I'm wondering if there are any progeny health records for this bitch which might give some light onto her passing on a bad hip score? Do you have her KC registered name, we could look up additional info for you

Actually, just noticed her hip score was only done last year at age 7, this might have some bearing on the uneven/high score.......I'm now wondering why they have left it so late to breed a litter from her, she's far too old for a 1st litter IMO...........there are plenty of other litters from which you could be choosing a puppy from i'm sure
Crikey, well spotted! I think the age and high hip score would put me off, surely if she's 8 years old the litter can't be registered?
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If the litter is born before her 8th birthday, then yes, they can be registered, as she'd of had them age 7.....just also goes to show, that KC Assured Breeders means nowt, it doesn't mean you're getting a quality guaranteed puppy.....in fact, a lot of KC Assured Breeders really aren't worth the piece of paper it's written on
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If the litter is born before her 8th birthday, then yes, they can be registered, as she'd of had them age 7.....just also goes to show, that KC Assured Breeders means nowt, it doesn't mean you're getting a quality guaranteed puppy.....in fact, a lot of KC Assured Breeders really aren't worth the piece of paper it's written on
Have to sadly agree, puppy buyers still need to do a lot of research still before they find a good breeder, whether they are an ABS member or not.

On that note, I'm off to walk my lot in the sunshine!
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Have to sadly agree, puppy buyers still need to do a lot of research still before they find a good breeder, whether they are an ABS member or not.

On that note, I'm off to walk my lot in the sunshine!
so found the litter advertised on Champdogs

Her DOB is actually 2011, so she is only 3 ......they published incorrect info!

The puppies will have a lovely pedigree, I'd still be concerned with the hip score, but it's the buyers decision if she wants to go ahead
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Thank you for all the advice. I asked the breeder for more info and went to visit. The bad hips were indeed a result of a bad ligament injury when she was 4 months old. The breeder showed me the scores of the siblings and they were all very good. The siblings had also had elbow scores which were 0. I'm not sure why the breeder didn't have this dam elbow scored. She was born in July 2011 so will be under 4 years old when she has the pups. One thing the breeder did say which I wasn't sure about was that she doesn't let the pups leave until they're 12 weeks. I just wondered if this would make bonding with the pup and socialising it properly more difficult. What are peoples thoughts on this, or is that perfectly normal? All other breeders I've spoken to said 8 weeks is the usual time for them to leave their mother.
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Goodness....12 weeks? Why on earth not?!

Mine "needed" to go at 8 weeks for their own benefit, one to one attention & training, and as you say, bonding........will they be fully vaccinated when they leave? If not, this makes your job much harder where socialising is concerned, they are very heavy to be carrying around at that age!

Great that the other scores checked out, & as said, a lovely pedigree, sharing some similar lines to my dogs
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Yes she did say that they would be fully vaccinated and she would have taken them to the local park. She also had 5 grandchildren that would be used to having around.
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Can anyone point me in the right direction to get a really great healthy puppy?
I've looked at champdogs and at the KC accredited puppy breeders.
Is there any else to check??
I'm just making sure that I'm not missing searching elsewhere.
I just lost my beautiful yellow lab to mast cell cancer, it's been an awful experience seeing her at only 5 years old die from this horrible disease.We did all we could for her.
I want to take my time to research and find the best I can to narrow down the risks to a new puppies health. I just want my future puppy to enjoy a long happy healthy life as a much loved family pet.
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