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Old 15-02-2017, 03:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Best Labrador Retriever at the 2017 Westminster Dog Show



A perennial favorite at the show, we’re surprised that a Labrador Retriever has never won the Best in Show at Westminster. But maybe 2017 will be this breed’s year! I’ve got my fingers crossed! There are 46 Labs entered at the show, all of them worthy of the Best in Show.

Here are the best Labrador Retrievers at the 2017 Westminster Dog Show:

Best of Breed: GCHS CH Mainland Little Ricky Ricardo



Best of Opposite Sex: GCH CH Holly Farm’s Music Of The Night



Select Dog: Frakaris Lobuff Oh! Ryan



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Old 15-02-2017, 11:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They are all so beautiful ❤️ and also, a bit overweight!!! - - - OK, I understand they are American and that is "the norm" there.

I'm sure, at the back end of their pedigrees their will be English Labs and now, in England, show Labs are solid and chunky 😎 - - - but not "porky" 🐾

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Got to say, I hate what some of the American show people and show judges are doing to Labradors. They point to it as "Substance" but it's not, it's fat, nothing more and nothing less.

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They don't look as bad as some I have seen photos of BUT, it's really hard to tell from a photo. We even have weights in our CKC and AKC standards and they are the wonkiest weights. They say "working condition weight." Working condition is not defined, nor, of course, is it checked, so the weights aren't either. The only other sporting group dog with this wonky "working condition" qualifier is the Flat Coat. I have no idea if they check.

I know from my own dog that condition can make a huge difference, even in person, let alone in a photo. At one year he was 66 pounds, extremely lean with his back three ribs popping but very fit. He gained a bit and a bit till he hit 82 pounds but was so fit it hardly showed. He was a bit heavy but not as plump as you'd think a 24% weight gain would look. No one would have said he was fat. Now he is back around 67 pounds but not as lean looking as when younger because he is not as fit.
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They're rubbish photos, you can barely see anything of the dogs, conformationwise.
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The UK changed their breed standard a couple of years back to include the words:-

Characteristics.
Good tempered, very agile (which precludes excess body weight or excess substance). . . .

I was on an American forum a while back where they were discussing the AKC breed standard, which lists weight as:- Dogs 65 to 80lbs and bitches 55 to 70lbs, and they were saying that it impossible to meet the standard with a weight less than 100lbs. To me the blame lays with the judges. The Labrador is a moderate working gundog, not a lumbering cart horse! We tend to follow America and the last two or three years the Labrador winner at Crufts has also been overweight, although maybe not as much as in America. It's a proven fact that excessive weight shortens the life of the dog. OK, I'm an old man and was brought up with the Labradors of the 1960/70's. Dogs like Ch Ruler of Blaircourt, Ch Candlemas Rookwood Silver Moonlight and the like, and would love to see their like again in the ring.

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Weight is about health!
Plain and simple!
I've not been able to drive (eye drops) so luna hasn't been swimming for nearly 2 weeks. That is her main exercise. Half a kilo has been put on and I can see it in her movements. Yes she has very bad arthritis which means I am 'lucky' enough to see the impact of small weight gains very quickly, I look for them as well.
They are felt by all dogs though
I have to try not to look so as not to see what luna has trained me to see.
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How things have changed! Going back just 9 generations on the winning dog, Mainland Little Ricky Ricardo, you come to such dogs as Poolstead Preferential, Kupros Master Mariner, Fabracken Comerdy Star, Bradking Cassidy. All good looking and moderate UK dogs and all going back to Ruler of Blaircourt. Many of you on here will recognise these names as being on the pedigrees of your own dogs.

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Best of Breed at Crufts in 1952 and 53. British Justice, by Banchory Jack out of Pont Du Fahs. What a difference!!

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